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1 SHOWDOWN SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 20th December 2012, 2:49 am

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With Ben 10 Wikia and a strange Formspring announcement
The Name of the Season 1 finale (Arch 2 finale) is named:
Showdown, Part 1 and 2
This episode got delayed instead of being the big season finale...



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2 Re: SHOWDOWN SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 20th December 2012, 3:32 am

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Sounds legit enough.
We'll be seeing a museum, apparently.

3 Re: SHOWDOWN SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 20th December 2012, 12:39 pm

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This is worth taking seriously, we've taken Derrick's leaked information at less than face value in the past to our lack of benefit. It's easy to when he choses to release only the most ridiculous information, "Yeah, there's a new alien in Outbreak, guys, no biggie. His name, oh it's Walkatrout of course, totally legit."
Basically I believe that this is a thing.

In regards to the episode, it sounds just like any other important episode of any cartoon, and we can assume that SPOILERS: Ben and Khyber will fight at some point, and Ben will use at least three of Heatblast, Armodrillo, Stinkfly, Crashhopper, Humungousaur, Ball Weevil and Big Chill.
However, Derrick has revealed non-directly that we will go to Galvan Prime in this episode. Possible fight between Azmuth and Dr. Psychobos anyone?

4 Re: SHOWDOWN SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 20th December 2012, 6:00 pm

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After this episode the new main villain will be female and from what I heard the villainess could be familiar to Ben.

5 Re: SHOWDOWN SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 22nd December 2012, 1:24 am

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Sonic_Gamer wrote:After this episode the new main villain will be female and from what I heard the villainess could be familiar to Ben.

Familiar? Hmm....I got my thoughts set to it being Rojo.


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6 Re: SHOWDOWN SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 22nd December 2012, 9:54 am

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richard10 wrote:
Sonic_Gamer wrote:After this episode the new main villain will be female and from what I heard the villainess could be familiar to Ben.

Familiar? Hmm....I got my thoughts set to it being Rojo.

I'm pretty sure that Derrick has confirmed the new female to be an original character, but correct me if I'm wrong.

7 Re: SHOWDOWN SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 30th January 2013, 6:41 pm

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Got some info
Part 1: The Faction infiltrates Galvan.
Part 2: Ben must deal with a past failure; a deranged Malware launches his final attack.

There's also been another schedule change, Tummy Trouble won't air before Showdown
Part 1 and 2 are pushed a week ahead so after Rules of Engagement, the episodes will air
and after that it's TGIS, no plot info about that

But there's your info

8 Re: SHOWDOWN SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 30th January 2013, 6:45 pm

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I'm thinking Ben will use the alien with no predator to defeat Khyber and his Dog. Hopefully it's Upgrade.

And he'll regain Feedback to beat Malware.

These are just my theories, though.


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9 Re: SHOWDOWN SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 30th January 2013, 7:31 pm

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Theory time.

The popular theory is that Feedback's significance is that he's the alien that can beat Malware. Big deal. So can Diamondhead. And Feedback has never actually beaten Malware - he lost once, and the other times, Malware let him win when he had what he wanted.

So why did Malware (presumably) want him out of the watch? What makes him so special in Showdown?

I think that it's because he has no predator.

Which Malware doesn't like.

So he offed Feedback.

Alright, fans. Tear holes in my theory like I know you will.


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11 Re: SHOWDOWN SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 31st January 2013, 7:14 pm

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12 Re: SHOWDOWN SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 31st January 2013, 8:27 pm

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My guess... Malware did it...

13 Re: SHOWDOWN SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 31st January 2013, 8:40 pm

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So this is gonna be interesting.


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14 Re: SHOWDOWN SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 31st January 2013, 8:40 pm

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15 Re: SHOWDOWN SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 31st January 2013, 10:24 pm

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Ebomnitrix wrote:My guess... Malware did it...

Mine too, but is that all? Ben lost a favorite transformation, and he's all hush hush about it?

16 Re: SHOWDOWN SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 1st February 2013, 1:00 am

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datdude wrote:
Ebomnitrix wrote:My guess... Malware did it...

Mine too, but is that all? Ben lost a favorite transformation, and he's all hush hush about it?

Yes. Because Malware killed Feedback.

17 Re: SHOWDOWN SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 1st February 2013, 1:03 am

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OprahWinfrey62 wrote:Theory time.

The popular theory is that Feedback's significance is that he's the alien that can beat Malware. Big deal. So can Diamondhead. And Feedback has never actually beaten Malware - he lost once, and the other times, Malware let him win when he had what he wanted.

So why did Malware (presumably) want him out of the watch? What makes him so special in Showdown?

I think that it's because he has no predator.

Which Malware doesn't like.

So he offed Feedback.

Alright, fans. Tear holes in my theory like I know you will.

No, Diamondhead could defeat him. Past tense. Malware has a Tachyon cannon now, so with the exclusion of Chromastone (who he doesn't have), Feedback is the only one that is able to fight him on equal footing. Until he doesn't.

18 Re: SHOWDOWN SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 1st February 2013, 2:45 am

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Lodestar's Advocate wrote:
OprahWinfrey62 wrote:Theory time.

The popular theory is that Feedback's significance is that he's the alien that can beat Malware. Big deal. So can Diamondhead. And Feedback has never actually beaten Malware - he lost once, and the other times, Malware let him win when he had what he wanted.

So why did Malware (presumably) want him out of the watch? What makes him so special in Showdown?

I think that it's because he has no predator.

Which Malware doesn't like.

So he offed Feedback.

Alright, fans. Tear holes in my theory like I know you will.

No, Diamondhead could defeat him. Past tense. Malware has a Tachyon cannon now, so with the exclusion of Chromastone (who he doesn't have), Feedback is the only one that is able to fight him on equal footing. Until he doesn't.

Ben have Chromastone ,there also real form NRG.

19 Re: SHOWDOWN SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 1st February 2013, 2:57 am

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painlee wrote:
Lodestar's Advocate wrote:
OprahWinfrey62 wrote:Theory time.

The popular theory is that Feedback's significance is that he's the alien that can beat Malware. Big deal. So can Diamondhead. And Feedback has never actually beaten Malware - he lost once, and the other times, Malware let him win when he had what he wanted.

So why did Malware (presumably) want him out of the watch? What makes him so special in Showdown?

I think that it's because he has no predator.

Which Malware doesn't like.

So he offed Feedback.

Alright, fans. Tear holes in my theory like I know you will.

No, Diamondhead could defeat him. Past tense. Malware has a Tachyon cannon now, so with the exclusion of Chromastone (who he doesn't have), Feedback is the only one that is able to fight him on equal footing. Until he doesn't.

Ben have Chromastone ,there also real form NRG.

I meant young Ben.

20 Re: SHOWDOWN SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 4th February 2013, 3:25 am

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Airing this Saturday, See how Ben finally beats Khyber, Malware, Psychobos, and how he lost and gained Feedback... Kinda obvious everyone knows this by now right...? ...Ya thought so...

21 Re: SHOWDOWN SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 4th February 2013, 9:17 pm

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I'm new to the forums, I signed up a while ago but haven't posted anything yet.

I have a theory for this 2 part episode (it is 2 parts, right?)

Part 1: Mostly 11-year old Ben episode, with 11 year old Ben's final fight with Malware, and ending the episode showing he lost Feedback

Part 2: Mostly, if not all, Present Ben episode with the final battle of this arc, and ends the episode with Present Ben getting Feedback back.

22 Re: SHOWDOWN SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 4th February 2013, 9:41 pm

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Ben1015ish wrote:I'm new to the forums, I signed up a while ago but haven't posted anything yet.

I have a theory for this 2 part episode (it is 2 parts, right?)

Part 1: Mostly 11-year old Ben episode, with 11 year old Ben's final fight with Malware, and ending the episode showing he lost Feedback

Part 2: Mostly, if not all, Present Ben episode with the final battle of this arc, and ends the episode with Present Ben getting Feedback back.

That would be a cool way to do it, but I dont think weve seen an ep thats 100% about 11 year old ben yet.

23 Re: SHOWDOWN SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 4th February 2013, 9:41 pm

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datdude wrote:
Ben1015ish wrote:I'm new to the forums, I signed up a while ago but haven't posted anything yet.

I have a theory for this 2 part episode (it is 2 parts, right?)

Part 1: Mostly 11-year old Ben episode, with 11 year old Ben's final fight with Malware, and ending the episode showing he lost Feedback

Part 2: Mostly, if not all, Present Ben episode with the final battle of this arc, and ends the episode with Present Ben getting Feedback back.

That would be a cool way to do it, but I dont think weve seen an ep thats 100% about 11 year old ben yet.

Trouble Helix was pretty close.


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24 Re: SHOWDOWN SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 4th February 2013, 9:56 pm

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Can I use this opportunity to talk to you guys about the future of the three major villains of this arc. I was wondering today about what's in store for Malware, Khyber and Psychobos after this arc is over and I've come to three very different conclusions about there appearances in future.

Malware - I'm actually hoping that his story stops here, with Showdown either ending in his death or his curing. He's had quite a weird specific role in this arc and I think that it might be better if the character and the arc finish together. There is still a large chance that he remains and becomes one of the background Omnitrix-wanters but I really think that it he should go out on a high.
What I'm trying to say is that the character isn't that interesting, the design is great but that's beside the point. He could hang around afterwards but I think that he'd just be stealing screen time from more interesting villains.

Dr. Psychobos - I personally think that he's going to sink into the background a bit, and Special Delivery almost confirms that.
I don't mean that I think he'll become a character used on the same level as Zombozo or Trumbipular, but think more of an Albedo or Darkstar level. He'll be a huge threat and will command his own individual episodes, but he won't ever become a major part of an arc again.
Although in this arc the writers did make him come off as threatening but really at his base he's quite a silly fun character complete with his own catchphrase. I really can't imagine him doing much else.

Khyber - Please keep this guy at the same level TeamOV, I beg of you. This guy is so threatening and badass that he really shouldn't fall out of the major arc villain bracket, and should be right up there with Vilgax (alongside Aggregor and Diagon I guess).
There's also a precedent for him being a recurring character, his only attachment to team Psychobos extends as far as his paycheck, he could walk out of a confrontation against Malware without a background glance.
Besides CN needs Francis to sell more Nemetrix predator toys show us more incredibly awesome Nemetrix predators. Laughing

What do you think will happen to the big three after Showdown?

I'm new to the forums, I signed up a while ago but haven't posted anything yet.

I have a theory for this 2 part episode (it is 2 parts, right?)

Part 1: Mostly 11-year old Ben episode, with 11 year old Ben's final fight with Malware, and ending the episode showing he lost Feedback

Part 2: Mostly, if not all, Present Ben episode with the final battle of this arc, and ends the episode with Present Ben getting Feedback back.

Welcome! I hope that you and other lurkers post more, we need more posters to have more lovely, lovely unique opinions to argue over (I'm serious here, I love arguing on the internet and I believe that debating things is an important life skill)

Your opinion seems perfectly sound, but nothing that I don't believe we could have guessed beforehand.

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