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THE VAMPIRE STRIKES BACK SPOILERS AND TALKBACK

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Tammar

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Friday?

Uncle Grandpa

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It airs Saturday, at least according to both the commercial and CN.com


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It wouldn't surprise me if this is going to be the best episode of OV yet, cause it seems like it will be that way.


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Tsuchimikado Motoharu

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Seems pretty cool, but with all this Whampire, I'm starting to think this episode might be quite light on aliens. But all the aliens we do know are pretty cool, so no biggie.

I like that they acknowledged that Vladats aren't exactly friends of the Transylians, since Viktor's involvement in this plan always confused me a little. Wonder if it'll come up again....maybe Viktor will help defeat Transyl somehow?

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Vicktor sounds weird in that preview


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I noticed that but now I'm not sure if it's even him talking, I don't remember what the preview looked like without the lag. I hope they actually have Crujo/Viktor/Rad/Scout talk, and Kuphulu come to think of it, his VA isn't a regular either AFAIK.

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Let Me Tell You Something wrote:I noticed that but now I'm not sure if it's even him talking, I don't remember what the preview looked like without the lag. I hope they actually have Crujo/Viktor/Rad/Scout talk, and Kuphulu come to think of it, his VA isn't a regular either AFAIK.

Vicktor, Rad, and Kuphulu all talked in the preview


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Oh the leak? Didn't want to watch it but now I'm too tempted. Brb.

Yeah he does sound weird, but he did have a bit of an accent in his return and I guess he really forced it on this ep. Viktor talking means Crujo likely will, same for Rad and Scout so that's good.

PeruAlonso


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Like everyone else, I hope Ben can come to his senses.

Maybe attempting to put an end to Z' Skayr's plans will be the opportunity to get smart.

Uncle Grandpa

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what is was with this arc and low alien usage it was quite annoying

anyway

good episode and all, whampire's cool, grey matteratomix's cool, astrodactyl is beyond cool so at least they were good, and i really liked how ben and billy larry zs'skayr switched henchmen for a while. i also quite liked vicktor's betrayal that was fun.


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I'd say the debut of Whampire, the return of Atomix, and Viktor having a change of heart made this episode worthwhile. I know Ben's attitude was the worst but why let it dissaude you all from enjoying the show? There might be times where he is serious.

Look forward to the next 2 episodes even though the 2-part episode was supposed to air.

Tsuchimikado Motoharu

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Tsuchimikado Motoharu wrote:Seems pretty cool, but with all this Whampire, I'm starting to think this episode might be quite light on aliens. But all the aliens we do know are pretty cool, so no biggie.

I like that they acknowledged that Vladats aren't exactly friends of the Transylians, since Viktor's involvement in this plan always confused me a little. Wonder if it'll come up again....maybe Viktor will help defeat Transyl somehow?

Well lookit that.

Anywayyyyy, that was a rather underwhelming ending. The entire way it went down felt a bit off. Just, in general. It might have been a good standalone, but as the conclusion to an arc it could have been better.

The villains (and the high number of characters in general) in particular bothered me. We didn't see enough of Crujo, and he and Kuphulu were basically irrelevant by this point, not unlike Ben's entire team sans Hobble. Lord Transyl was basically the most cliched vampire villain imaginable. I liked Viktor's betrayal, but that too was ultimately underwhelming. It was really odd to see the other henchmen just be ok with all that went down (again, they were irrelevant), and Viktor just being like "ok I hate Transyl so just kill my buddy Zs'skayr, the one that kinda just brought me back to "life" now, I don't really care anymore apparently" is. Weird.

The entire scope of the plot was too limited to fit the finale. Maybe if this arc had begun once Zs'skayr and Transyl already had their planetary assimilation plan well underway it could have been a better story. I dunno.

The aliens were good, but only Whampire was used to his full potential (although what the hell was that energy blast even) Astrodactyl was barely there, and Atomix was basically just a phoned in way to wrap everything up as fast as possible. I love Atomix and all, but let's please not have him be how every arc from now on ends. And IF you must, at least give him a cool battle scene or something, not just make a ball.

painlee

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Whampire a pretty good alien but that big energy blast was weird, was it from Whampire or the omnitrix?

Hobble is getting very annoying i hope he doesn't appear much now that the Anur Transyl 3 episodes is over.

good that they did not ignored the Vladat-Transylian conflict and Viktor stopping being Z'skayr dog.

cant wait till the next 2 parter as that is the current arc finale event thought CN decided to premiere 2 episode from the next arc first.


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I liked it a lot. Whampire was fun, a nice extended look into a new alien I missed from earlier incarnations. Atomix's arrival was cool(even if spoiled) and his means of creating light was pretty creative. I'd like to see Atomix mid-arc though, not as a deus ex omnitrix exclusively. Maybe the two-part special will have him somewhere in the middle. Viktor took an interesting character turn that really made me care about him for once. Rad and Hobble were fun - insights into Hobble's species was pretty amusing and cool. I liked the dynamic between Zs'Skayr and Transyl, it was kind of unique to the franchise.

I didn't really go over everything I liked cause I can't think of all of it, but Transyl felt like he needed a bit more, Crujo needed to do more, and Zs'Skayr "died"(is this the fourth time now?) a little quickly. Maybe Transyl will gain relevance again though.

They made it pretty unclear but I'm pretty sure the energy wave was something along the lines of Mystery Incorporeal - someone will probably ask Wyatt.

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Wow Rad is a jerk.

Why'd the watch want to locked itself with that alien dna again?

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Compiling DNA is a big part of the Omnitrix and I guess Azmuth made the model with Ben in mind. As in, if he doesn't go to the subject and scan it because of whatever is occupying him he can't use the Omnitrix.

But mostly just a plot device.

painlee

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Let Me Tell You Something wrote:Compiling DNA is a big part of the Omnitrix and I guess Azmuth made the model with Ben in mind. As in, if he doesn't go to the subject and scan it because of whatever is occupying him he can't use the Omnitrix.

But mostly just a plot device.

i wonder how the omnitrix would react if Ben go to a Andromeda galaxy planet and there a lot of sapient species  on that planet.


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A episode with a lot off-story helps to make the story move on. Again 3 aliens, sorry, i say 1 alien, because Whampire is the only alien that Ben use really good in this episode, Astrodactyl is only there for the space thing and Atomix is only there to kill and finish the story in less 22 minutes.

I think this 3 part Arc was really weak, the story more low of all the Arcs of Omniverse until now. The problem is that we have like 6 or 7 episodes with only 3 aliens and that is really low, because someones are the same aliens.

I understand (in terms of story) why ben doesnt use Frankenstrike, Snare-Oh or Bliztwolfer. But is sad, that in the Arc of monster aliens the only ones (until today episode) monster aliens of Ben wasnt use a lot.

I think that if Bengance is Mine wasnt write and this Arc have 4 episodes and not 3, the things will be a little bit different. Because the problem is that we only a little part of all we could be show.

Ben could use more the monster aliens and run of the Anur Transyl people between they, but...

Crujo and Khupulo were only there like extras, doesnt have any big lines, any big fight, they only are the thugs. Vicktor finally have justice and have the best and most awesome character development of all Ben 10 history, why?, not because was great and big, not, was the best character development, because Vicktor choose for his own the side and pass to be a badass character to be a really neutral but killing character.

Whampire was ok, like always, his powers could be explore in more episodes, but Derrick alredy drops that he only would be in this episode for now, that make me say, why is you fucking problem men?, create a alien like Gutroc or Whampire and is doesnt use anymore?

Lord Transyl was an ok villain, because was a Vladat, a alien based in horror villain Dracula, but again with a 4 episode, the story could be a little bit better.

And for god sake we can put the jokes to a side and make that Atomix have a killing, cool fight against some villain, because is boring that the only that know to do is to say "some little fusion cousine from Atomix" and makes the ball that.

Zs'Skyar was cool, the only character that for my, do it right until his 3 or 4 death.

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painlee wrote:
Tammar wrote:
painlee wrote:
Primus10 wrote:
painlee wrote:another thing i hate from Zs'Skayr design is that he no longer have his reverse skull which was iconic of him.



i hope it just for the storyboard.
Yeah, i hate that and now he have 2 eyes -.- i hate that too
did not noticed before, that make it even worse.Crying or Very sad

One eye >>>>>>>>>>>>> two. Bud still, Zs'skayr looks really really really great
yes he is perfect, just like always.

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