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Omni-Highbreed97

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Tammar wrote:
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I can see why people like it, but I'm not a fan of its retcons
So it is bad?
In my opinion, it is...
A retcon ... means "definition of bad"?

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Slix Vigma is like ... a super super smart robot, I bet he rebuilt himself. Smile Power of robotic brainzzzz

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Tammar wrote:
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Ebomnitrix wrote:Welp, I saw the episode on the stream... and this is probably the worst OV episode so far.
Slix Vigma returned, yet his design was eh.
Rook being a bro... oh god... and they left him like that.
The only good thing about this episode is The Worst appearing.
Honestly meh episode.

Now OV is starting to piss me off, 3-5 aliens, no transformations, overuse of certain people... and bad plots. (And I'm only talking about this season and kind of last season)
No offense to OV so far, but this season sucks... I think the only good episodes so far are The Vengers, and The Rooters of All Evil. Before I can say what I think about this season... I have to see Universe VS Tennyson, and the Rooters finale before I officially debate on what to rate it.
It's fun.

Tammar wrote:Cough It Up was bad. And The Rooters of All Evil was the definition of a bad episode
....for you.

Tell me the definition, please.
I can see why people like it, but I'm not a fan of its retcons

So you hate then Alien Force and Ultimate Alien?

Because all that series is a retcon of character, Bellwood and even the Plumbers, please men think before speak

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AleSIr19 wrote:
Tammar wrote:
Omni-Highbreed97 wrote:
Ebomnitrix wrote:Welp, I saw the episode on the stream... and this is probably the worst OV episode so far.
Slix Vigma returned, yet his design was eh.
Rook being a bro... oh god... and they left him like that.
The only good thing about this episode is The Worst appearing.
Honestly meh episode.

Now OV is starting to piss me off, 3-5 aliens, no transformations, overuse of certain people... and bad plots. (And I'm only talking about this season and kind of last season)
No offense to OV so far, but this season sucks... I think the only good episodes so far are The Vengers, and The Rooters of All Evil. Before I can say what I think about this season... I have to see Universe VS Tennyson, and the Rooters finale before I officially debate on what to rate it.
It's fun.

Tammar wrote:Cough It Up was bad. And The Rooters of All Evil was the definition of a bad episode
....for you.

Tell me the definition, please.
I can see why people like it, but I'm not a fan of its retcons

So you hate then Alien Force and Ultimate Alien?

Because all that series is a retcon of character, Bellwood and even the Plumbers, please men think before speak
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Those are not retcons

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Tammar wrote:
AleSIr19 wrote:
Tammar wrote:
Omni-Highbreed97 wrote:
Ebomnitrix wrote:Welp, I saw the episode on the stream... and this is probably the worst OV episode so far.
Slix Vigma returned, yet his design was eh.
Rook being a bro... oh god... and they left him like that.
The only good thing about this episode is The Worst appearing.
Honestly meh episode.

Now OV is starting to piss me off, 3-5 aliens, no transformations, overuse of certain people... and bad plots. (And I'm only talking about this season and kind of last season)
No offense to OV so far, but this season sucks... I think the only good episodes so far are The Vengers, and The Rooters of All Evil. Before I can say what I think about this season... I have to see Universe VS Tennyson, and the Rooters finale before I officially debate on what to rate it.
It's fun.

Tammar wrote:Cough It Up was bad. And The Rooters of All Evil was the definition of a bad episode
....for you.

Tell me the definition, please.
I can see why people like it, but I'm not a fan of its retcons

So you hate then Alien Force and Ultimate Alien?

Because all that series is a retcon of character, Bellwood and even the Plumbers, please men think before speak
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Those are not retcons

Yes they are, Kevin was bad in the OS and in AF he is good without explaination, Gwen is human with magic powers and later she is an alien (the same with Kevin later), The Forever Knights was a different org... In OS Driscoll is the Forever King in AF is Patrick (other thing is that McDuffie try to fix the mistake), Chamcaster was human in UA she is an alien.

Ben before never talk about Mr. Smoothie and later there it is. Vilgax armor and his story change a little but that is a retcon too. In UA Dr. Vicktor is no more an alien and now is a human from a country. Kevin have parents that never before was in the OS.

Animo end up in the Null Void without explaination and the bigger who kill and your arguments, The Plumbers in the OS was a secret org... That was close, his members was old people of the earth that work for the goverment, in AF all that change and now the Plumber is a alien org... That is not close and even the suits changes...

So dont tell me that is development of character because the same i can say of Kevin and Amalgam Kids in Rooters of All Evil

31 Re: NO HONORS AMONG BROS SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 8th August 2014, 10:41 pm

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AleSr19, we both may have different interpretations on this term that we so like to call "retcons". To my brain, "retcon" denotes something is not, or does not, or may not "fit" with the already established content.

I am contemplating (to the extent of my brain) that the original writers of the original series had the intention of establishing Gwen's powers as magic. In the early Alien Force episodes, it was "revealed" that Gwen's powers came from her alien heritage. Now my question is ... Is that retcon in your book, or if you are so kind to interpret it the way I do, will you think that it is a retcon? Or maybe will you see it as a "character development"? Or maybe will you see it as an "extension" of a character's origin?

This discussion is interesting, ain't it?

32 Re: NO HONORS AMONG BROS SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 13th August 2014, 3:48 am

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Omni-Highbreed97 wrote:AleSr19, we both may have different interpretations on this term that we so like to call "retcons". To my brain, "retcon" denotes something is not, or does not, or may not "fit" with the already established content.

I am contemplating (to the extent of my brain) that the original writers of the original series had the intention of establishing Gwen's powers as magic. In the early Alien Force episodes, it was "revealed" that Gwen's powers came from her alien heritage. Now my question is ... Is that retcon in your book, or if you are so kind to interpret it the way I do, will you think that it is a retcon? Or maybe will you see it as a "character development"? Or maybe will you see it as an "extension" of a character's origin?

This discussion is interesting, ain't it?

Yes is it, for my Gwen magic powers turn into alien powers is a retcon, because dont "fit" with the alredy state before in the show, for me that is a retcon, redone something that was alredy show in another way...

Kevin like a good guy and without his mutatuion is a retcon, because we never have a full explanation until "UA" and i cant count that like character development, because Kevin was the nemesis of Ben and in AF in the first episode he is like "Hello Ben i was in the Null Void 5 years thanks to Gwen and you, i think i will help to fight this DNAliens" and that dont fix anything show in OS or even between the series...

While in Omniverse they know how to make retcons, that are more like character development (Chamcaster, Azmuth, Galvans, Omnitrix, Ben, Plumbers, Bellwood, Incurseans, Albedo, Z'Skyar) still are some strong retcons the main retcon of Omniverse until now is the Rooters Saga, because to many fans this new explanation of Kevin/Plumber Kids past dont fit with the alredy done.

But for me is good, because at less they show that Proctor have really strong metal powers, they show flashbacks, they make a strong base to retcon the story, not like in AF were we dont get any explanation until UA and for me that is bullshit, the same with the Forever Knights, Plumbers, Animo and a lot more.

33 Re: NO HONORS AMONG BROS SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 13th October 2014, 8:28 pm

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I'm waiting for Weapon XI Part 2.....

34 Re: NO HONORS AMONG BROS SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 14th October 2014, 10:52 am

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Slix Vigma sure has changed.

35 Re: NO HONORS AMONG BROS SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 14th October 2014, 5:39 pm

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MaskedKitsune wrote:Slix Vigma sure has changed.
Yeah, he's way more awesome now. He even has his own flying ponies!


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36 Re: NO HONORS AMONG BROS SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 14th October 2014, 6:45 pm

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i love this episode so much


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37 Re: NO HONORS AMONG BROS SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 14th October 2014, 7:05 pm

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A comedic episode that was actually pretty funny. The tournament skipped most of its fights but was still pretty fun, butchered Slix Vigma aside.

38 Re: NO HONORS AMONG BROS SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 14th October 2014, 9:53 pm

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Once again Omniverse does one of the things that I hate immensely: recycle elements from the previous series without any regard for continuity. Slix Vigma was downright destroyed by Kevin in the original series AND his remains were on that starship that warped to a different galaxy. And now he's alive again and back on Earth without any explanation whatsoever.

39 Re: NO HONORS AMONG BROS SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 14th October 2014, 9:55 pm

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GeneralSecura wrote:Once again Omniverse does one of the things that I hate immensely: recycle elements from the previous series without any regard for continuity. Slix Vigma was downright destroyed by Kevin in the original series AND his remains were on that starship that warped to a different galaxy. And now he's alive again and back on Earth without any explanation whatsoever.

it's been six years and he's a robot

not to mention, kevin was on that ship too, and he was back by the end of that season


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40 Re: NO HONORS AMONG BROS SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 14th October 2014, 10:48 pm

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This episode was fantastic. Two great humor episodes in a row. Doing things right, Omniverse. Fistrook was hilarious all around. Also great to see Malice again. I also liked how excited Baumann was about Ben getting beaten up.

Dat Worst use was fantastic. The other two aliens were unexcitng, but The Worst made up for everything.

Shame about no Yetta tho.

41 Re: NO HONORS AMONG BROS SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 14th October 2014, 10:53 pm

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Tsuchimikado Motoharu wrote:This episode was fantastic. Two great humor episodes in a row. Doing things right, Omniverse. Fistrook was hilarious all around. Also great to see Malice again. I also liked how excited Baumann was about Ben getting beaten up.

Dat Worst use was fantastic. The other two aliens were unexcitng, but The Worst made up for everything.

Shame about no Yetta tho.

jeff there were four aliens. whichever one you forgot was also unexciting because this episode was basically 'arc 6 overuse all-stars feat. the worst'


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42 Re: NO HONORS AMONG BROS SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 14th October 2014, 10:58 pm

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ShrekIsLoveShrekIsLife wrote:
Tsuchimikado Motoharu wrote:This episode was fantastic. Two great humor episodes in a row. Doing things right, Omniverse. Fistrook was hilarious all around. Also great to see Malice again. I also liked how excited Baumann was about Ben getting beaten up.

Dat Worst use was fantastic. The other two aliens were unexcitng, but The Worst made up for everything.

Shame about no Yetta tho.

jeff there were four aliens. whichever one you forgot was also unexciting because this episode was basically 'arc 6 overuse all-stars feat. the worst'

I forgot Cannonbolt, yes....Weird.

43 Re: NO HONORS AMONG BROS SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 14th October 2014, 11:29 pm

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So rook is infected by fistricts BO( or something) and becomes the kind of guy that thing madden is game of the year every year. . . . yea everything wrong with omniverse in one ep right here


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44 Re: NO HONORS AMONG BROS SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 15th October 2014, 3:02 pm

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datdude wrote:So rook is infected by fistricts BO( or something) and becomes the kind of guy that thing madden is game of the year every year. . . . yea everything wrong with omniverse in one ep right here

Before CN ask to Omniverse crew to make 2 Arc more and make 80 episodes, this episode have a strong sense in the way, like the writer that i am i will explain you why this episode was make...

In Omniverse Ben doesnt have anything that block him of use any alien that he wants, so he can only take his Omnitrix a become i dont know the worst alien in the world or the most powerfull thing. In season 2, Outbreak have that sense to show what happens when one of the more powerfull devices in the world become mad.

So Ben after that episode wins (in some sense of the word) four new aliens: Walkatrout, Pesky Dust, The Worst and Molestache

So Omniverse crew, doesnt wanna to make another ChamAlien or Fasttrack, two aliens that wasnt use in a lot of episodes and become un-used, so they make this episode to explain the main powers of the other 3 aliens, because Pesky Dust powers was alredy shown before.

In this episode the sense is that Ben fight againts a lot of people and villains using his worst 3 aliens, Molestache powers will be use his moustache to grave people when he is underground, Walkatrout, well we finally doesnt know a lot and the Worst become indestructible.

But like always the episodes have a full lenght of 22 minutes and for questions of time they ends up taking off, the battle of Molestache and the battle of Walkatrout, making The Worst the only alien used in the episode...

There you have...

45 Re: NO HONORS AMONG BROS SPOILERS AND TALKBACK on 17th October 2014, 12:03 am

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Jeez Louise, just when Omniverse starts getting pretty good, episodes like this come along.
Horrible episode.

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